All posts by F'ing-gauls

Sadly we don't actually know anything about Naevia's parents or her heritage, though fans seem to agree that she was Phoenician. All we know for certain is Naevia was born in the ludus and lived her entire life there until she was banished.

I wish we had known more about Naevia, all we know from the show is that she was born in the house of Batiatus.

I do wish Hamilcar had lived longer, he was an interesting character and it would have been nice to know more about him. Especially since he was one of the first people to join the rebellion. I don't Naevia, Hamilcar, or Barca are related to each other in the show, but it is interesting that the writers chose to give all of them names from the real-life Hannibal's family. I think it's probably because those were common names for people with Carthaginian or Phoenician ancestry. It could also be because the Romans gave new names to slaves so that they would lose their identity, and the Romans used those names because they were common.

Good point. It is strange that the show did not focus on the Celts in addition to the Gauls and Germans.

Historically, ethnic conflict was a big part of why the rebel movement broke down. The main groups were, as you said, Germans, Gauls, and Celts, as well as Thracians. There were also Greeks, Sardinians, Sarmatians, and even Italics and Romans, and many more. I would have liked to see more about how the rebels overcame (or could not overcome) ethnic conflicts between the many groups.

The sets, the costuming, the characters, the relationships (not just romantic, but friendships also), the themes, the web of plots, the writing, the symbolism and motifs, and that's just to start!

Definitely, he was a great character with an important role and I would have loved to see him become a rebel leader (or just a regular rebel troublemaker lol)

@Sorugue yeah that's another good one! there are too many good fights and not enough answer slots :(

Check Youtube and/or Spotify if you haven't yet, they have the complete soundtrack for all four seasons

The soundtrack for all four seasons is available to listen to for free on Youtube and Spotify, maybe check there if you haven't already

@PenguinSuzie oh thats really interesting about dating through festivals, I didn't know that!

I agree, Vengeance is for sure in 73 BC. Historically (as I understand it), the actual war only began after the two battles at Vesuvius, which occurred within several weeks to a few months after the spring of 73 BC.

I agree with your assessment of GOTA as well, partly because of Lydon being there. He's the only gladiator we know for sure to be from Hispania/Iberia, and the Sertorian Wars in Hispania began in 80 BC and prompted an upswing in captured warriors from there. It's definitely possible that Lydon was captured from before the Sertorian Wars, but I think the timing lines up so well that it's more likely that he was captured during, and hold only been at the ludus a few months to a year. This lines up with the discussion between Glaber and Marcus about Pompey struggling with the Sertorian Wars, which had been going on for several years at that point.

Blood and Sand is hard to date because of the ambiguous timeline of "The Red Serpent", so I agree that Spartacus only comes to the ludus in late 75 or early 74 BC.

Thanks for you input!

Oenomaus! He was the only person to ever fight Theokeles 1-on-1 and live, and his training helped Spartacus and Crixus survive against him. The only time we know he ever lost lost a fight is when he was against Theokeles and after he had been tortured, starved, and injured. His skill and training made great warriors like Crixus and Spartacus, and he himself was a highly talented fighter with an affinity for all weapons and fighting styles. I personally think he was the best we ever saw.

After him I think it's

Spartacus

Gannicus

Crixus

Theokeles

Caburus

Nasir

Agron

Saxa

Naevia

Drenis

Ulpius

The rebel woman with the long black hair who we see in the background a lot in WoTD and goes with Crixus, Naevia, and Agron when they branch off

Crassus (as much as I hate to admit it XP)

Pollux

Also, considering that the Veteran is like an old man and yet he lived through the entire war and several years of being a gladiator, I imagine he's an excellent warrior as well, but we don't see him fighting much. Same with Leviticus, Litaviccus, and Lydon. Rabanus and Ortius were gladiators for a long time as well, and they lived through most of the war (Rabanus right up to the very end, if we know for sure that's him on the cross in that one shot).

I'm not 100% sure, but if you look up the WoTD soundtrack on Youtube, Spotify, or something similar, it has all the tracks available and you can listen to them for free. It may just be a fragment of a song and not its own track, but either way I believe the tracks are listed in order of appearance in the show, so I think you could find it.

The crosses and the remains of the victims could be seen on the Appian Way for many years after, but since it's been more than 2000 years since then, idk if the crosses would remain standing to this day. There are probably some really interesting archaeological remains to be found, though. And there are a lot of ruins of buildings from that time period that are still standing, and can be toured.

When I finish a show I usually just immediately start re-watching the beginning XD

Yeah the last season is hard to watch but at the same time, I think there's a really nice, subtly triumphant and hopeful theme that wraps up the story really well and soothes some of the sting of all the depressing stuff

Personally, I think the series doesn't need to be rebooted per se. They could release an enhanced edition that cleans up timelines and plotholes and includes deleted scenes, but that's as far as I would go with it.

Instead I would like

1) a prequel with young Oenomaus, Titus, young Quintus, young Lucretia trying to maneuver her way into the upper classes, Titus's wife, Ulpius as champion, and a newly-arrived Gannicus

2) a GoTA-style season between Vengeance and WoTD that's just about preparing for and then seizing the mines

3) post-WoTD Triumvirate shenanigans

4) Gannicus's travels between GoTA and Vengeance

5) prequel with young Glaber, Ilithyia, and Albinius

5) live-action versions of the comics

6) story about survivors of the final battle (but not about Nasir and Agron, their story ended in a good place and I think adding to it would kind of betray the ending of WoTD)

7) a story about Nasir's dominus and that household, and maybe he has dealings with Crassus, Solonius, Batiatus, etc

8) the same show format but about Mithradates and the Mithradatic Wars

9) pre-WoTD story set in Sinuessa that includes Laeta and her husband, the Cilician pirates, Sibyl, etc, and leads up to WoTD ep. 2